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Let's send them a letter.
I was watching one of my favourite cartoons last night again, Team America WorldPolice.
And, besides the naked dolls porn scenes or other silly funny moments, there was one particular joke I thought was very spot on. A UN representative of some sort was visiting North Korean Kim Jong-il kindly asking him to show all the areas of the palace so he could see if there were any WMD. If you don’t allow me, he said, I would have to....I would have to....go back!!!! And then, we will send you a letter, in which we'll let you know how angry we are with you!
And that is exactly what is so ridiculous in the western world right now. Look at the UK! Look at what is happening. The public is outraged...’Police are doing nothing!’ they are saying, 'Police are not protecting us!'
But how can they? If they beat those scumbags up, they would get in trouble. If they use the plastic bullets or water cannons or my favourite- CS gas-on them...how much would that same public frown upon them afterwards? Oh, those poor children were pushed into this behaviour by deeply rooted social problems, they will say. Oh no, we closed their youth centres! They had nowhere else to go, so they got bored, poor little....*&&^^%%%s.
So we see endless scenes of looting, where young guys lazily loot shops, taking new trainers, TV screens and whatever else they fancy, while the police are running after them with little sticks, which they can’t even use with enough passion.
At work, in a college, one of our directors said to me once, that things changed so badly these days, that the youngsters don’t feel any fear or respect for authority. 'A few years ago', she said, 'I would walk into a group of students fighting in the corridor and I could tell them to stop and they would listen. Nowadays, they would just tell me to f** off'. Because there are no measures left for the authorities to use against the offending youth. They are too young to arrest and jail them, so David Cameron’s statement, in which he claimed that If they are old enough to be committing this crime, they are old enough to be punished for it has no real value in it, whatsoever. If the looters are young enough, they will go free. They can’t be threatened with parents as parents are just as useless and stupid as their children. They can’t be told they would be expelled from colleges or schools as that would only make them happy. So the police will now spend months analyzing the footage from cameras, mobile phone messages and twitter accounts so that they would arrest these criminals, only to set them free shortly after. Probably with apologies.
And,of course, people already try to justify this mayhem that took over the country. It comes from ‘nothing to lose’ they said. Haven’t I heard this one before? Oh yes. Terrorist have nothing to lose either. It is because of the poverty. It is because of the racism. It is because of the university fees. Honestly? Pleeeeease.
It is so obvious what is going on out there that it is not even worth discussing.I personally am thinking of going to John Lewis for some middle class looting, as one Facebook friend suggested. I fancy some new curtains.
And I absolutely love the image I just saw on TV, of the Sikhs standing outside their businesses on the street, taking the matters into their own hands. Because they know there wont be any help from the police. Not because the police are useless. But because their hands are helplessly tied by the ridiculous liberal, pc bullshit.
So, yes. Let’s analyse why it happened, lets apologize for not providing them with more freedom and more opportunities, maybe give them something free to make them happy, and let’s send them a letter in which we express just how saddened we all are by their naughty behaviour. Let's just bend over, shall we.
The same thing kind of happens in Peru: when a police officer shoots a wrongdoer, he'll have to live a nightmare, judicial processes et al. But when a wrongoder kills a police officer, after all the sorrow and regret, the killer will most probably walk or be kept in prison for some ridiculous time.
ReplyDeleteThe joke doesn't seem so indicative in the light of what happened in Iraq". No pc prevented americans from bombing the country. I mean liberal western values work beautifully inside the country but fail to work in international relations. I don't quite understand: don't they send young people to institutions any more? I mean if the looters or the active gang members are arrested won't they be punished? It is strange. And can you please answer my question, Scary? My son says that the riots have an ethnic character, he says that the rioters are mostly immigrants from Africa, but I couldn't find any reliable sources that emphasize the ethnicity of rioters, and the looting scenes show people of different ethnic background. What is your information about the situation? Thank you.
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ReplyDeleteAh, good point. I think western politicians quickly forget the political correctness when it comes to the value of oil.
I am not sure about the institutions; I just know most of the young people in the UK get away with minor crimes. Maybe because of the age issue. The problem is a lot of them are way too young, but already aggressive, full of greed and envy for the bling lifestyle of the celebrities. As Ed Miliband said this morning, the reasons are way too complicated and cannot be approached in a simplistic manner. I definitely heard that the looters were mainly of the North African origin, even though there is more than enough white scumbags in the UK, too. Who, I am sure, jumped at the opportunity. But it did seem from the TV footage, the interviews they held (with representatives of ethnic minorities etc) that there definitely is something in this. What we must also remember, is that all the areas of London that got hit the worst are the areas where ethnic minorities are more like the majorities. Those are the poorest, roughest areas of the city. Hackney is famously a gansta place. Croydon is just purely immigrants,etc.
Nobody will tell you the truth, so there won’t be any info. But you can see some interesting tendencies, which are very clear even from the snippets in the news. The Asian community coming out to guard their own temples and shops, etc. Three Asian guys got ran over by a car last night as they stood there in line protecting their homes, and died. Turks came out to guard their premises... There definitely is a sense of ethnic character to all this. Very disturbing. But also..The people who came out to volunteer to clean the mess in their cities were a clear mixture of races, colours and backgrounds.
Poverty is a real & ugly thing. The issue is not with the liberal policies. These policies are aimed to protect the most vulnerable amongst us, old, disabled, poor. The issue is with the corrupt political system that always caters to the rich & powerful and leaves the much needed social services to be run by even more corrupt opportunists. So the answer shouldn’t be to take away even more from the social protection system by defunding it. The answer should be to take charge of it and fix it. Just because we’re doing a poor job of managing it, doesn’t mean that we don’t need it or it’s not important.
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This is the problem: ( I copied it from someone on FB)
ReplyDelete"R.I.P Broken Britain!! You went soft on discipline ! You went soft on immigration! You went soft on crime! Parents were told 'No you can't smack the kids!' Teachers were prevented from chastising kids in school! The police couldn't clip a troublemaker round the ear! Kids had rights blah blah blah! Well done Britain! You should reap what you sow! We have lost a whole generation ! Copy & paste if you agree!! Time for a change"
It is fantastic to have support for the vulnerable. This is a different issue, in my opinion here. The lack of punishment, the worry about criminals' rights, kids can abuse the policemen knowing they will go free...Like people who shouted Osama Bin Laden had rights for a proper trial. Really? When and where do you stop? Can we not find some healthy balance without going overboard one way or another? In the US you might have a different situation. I know people still have a fear of the police in the States, am I wrong? Nothing like this in the UK. What has just been happening is the living proof. The proof that Britain has gone too far in its desire to please,apologize and feel guilty for its past mistakes. Sometimes tough measures are needed, and those people whose homes and businesses were destroyed also had rights- to be protected by the system. Nobody was there to help them.
I'm surprised to see you taking this stance on the issue. Isn't your own presence in Britain is possible only because of Britain's lenient culture?
ReplyDeleteI do agree that respect for authority is valuable, yet attitudes of respect for authority and fear of police tend to dovetail with militarism, xenophobia, poverty, a lack of innovation, corruption, and low levels of personal happiness. I doubt that the Chinese or North Koreans have the same discipline problems you're seeing in Britain.
Isn't the petty provincialism of Baku what sent you to England in the first place?
@Mark: Again, why do we have to confuse some different issues here?
ReplyDeleteJust because I got married and happened to move here, not somewhere else, does not mean I have to sympathise with people who have no rules, no morale, no brain and no respect for others in the society. Yes, democracy is great, corruption, dictatorship and xenophobia are bad. Some healthy balance needs to be found. Nothing could justify, in my mind, what those guys were doing. Me being an ethnic minority myself does not make me any more tolerant of the crime and nasty social behaviour. I don't think, for example, that shutting down social network sites would be a way forward. However, policemen standing helpless watching people's shops vandalised is also bizarre, in my opinion.
It's just plain stupid when you watch wrong being done and you won't even stop it...
ReplyDeleteO.K maybe shooting them isn't the answer...what about locking them up atleast...and no...not for 2 hours.
"Again, why do we have to confuse some different issues here?"
ReplyDeleteI don't think these issues are separate. Although I can easily imagine a country which is highly tolerant and highly respectful of authority, in real life it usually happens that cosmopolitan/individualistic cultures are tolerant of everything in general.
I can definitely tell you that the kind of discipline problems you're seeing in Britain are not unique to your country but have been noted here in America as well. I taught highshool and can verify that the school system, and particularly the behavior of students, has steadily deteriorated over the past twenty years. When I was in school, the principal and vice principal were respected and feared; nowadays they speak with students as equals and have no control. I myself sent about one student to the office per week. In fact, once I sent a student to the principal's office and he wandered the halls pounding on the windows of the other classrooms. The campus security had to chase him down!
And that's exactly what my research shows - wealth, tolerance, freedom, equality, happiness, a high immigration rate, a high rape rate, and disregard for order and authority are all related to one another. I think you're right when you call this situation bizarre, but I don't think you could even be in Britain to notice poor youth behavior if not if for the general tolerance of the individualistic West. The Japanese don't have this problem, and those who visit can verify that their attitude towards foreigners is simple: "Welcome to our country! Do you like it? When will you be leaving?"
@Ruhi: Nice to meet you, welcome to the blog!
ReplyDelete@Mark: You have some good points here. But really, tolerance can go too far, and I think we can see the signs that it has. As someone said on the TV the other day...People here talk of their rights all the time, forgetting about their responsibilities. Perhaps it is my upbringing that makes me less liberal deep inside. I believe in rules. Rules don’t necessarily have to mean dictatorship. They don’t necessarily mean the end of tolerance. Within a reason. There often seems to be no reason left anymore.
OK. I'm really not arguing with you; I just remember some things you'd written in the past that made me think your position was different. Personally I think this is one of the smaller problems the West is having, but it can be funny to watch.
ReplyDeleteDriving through the Yukon two days ago, I spoke with someone about Canadian laws. It seems this guy had problems with someone coming onto his land and siphoning gasoline out of his truck. Twice this happened with no help from local law enforcement.
Finally the man got a gallon of red paint, and painted a sign over the gas tank. The sign read, "Whoever's been stealing my gas: YOU MAKE A FINE TARGET" with a big target in the middle.
The thievery stopped. But before long the authorities showed up and said, "You have to take this down; threats are against the law." Disgusted, the man tried to argue, but to no avail: they gave him 30 days to take the sign off, and drove away.
Sure enough, 30 days later, they returned, only to find the target still in place. "Now, we told you to take this down," they said, "so we're going to have to give you a fine."
"Now hold on, I'm working on it," the man said. "Look, the sign isn't up anymore," It was true; he'd painted over the letter T. This continued for over a year before the entire sign was gone.